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		<title>By: Dawn N.</title>
		<link>http://litpark.com/2006/12/06/fantasysci-fi-humorists/comment-page-1/#comment-4830</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawn N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 17:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. You still look as beautiful as ever and have not changed one bit!  Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. You still look as beautiful as ever and have not changed one bit!  Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn N.</title>
		<link>http://litpark.com/2006/12/06/fantasysci-fi-humorists/comment-page-1/#comment-4829</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawn N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 17:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, I finally found your book Adrienne-Now I will need to purchase and read it.  I am very interested in the Gypsies Stole My Tequila.  Sounds familiar to my friends that I have lost contact with in the smallest state years ago.  You were one of them but I have heard of your accomplishments through people that I do have contact with still.  Keep in Touch, you know who I am.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I finally found your book Adrienne-Now I will need to purchase and read it.  I am very interested in the Gypsies Stole My Tequila.  Sounds familiar to my friends that I have lost contact with in the smallest state years ago.  You were one of them but I have heard of your accomplishments through people that I do have contact with still.  Keep in Touch, you know who I am.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: steve hulett</title>
		<link>http://litpark.com/2006/12/06/fantasysci-fi-humorists/comment-page-1/#comment-1837</link>
		<dc:creator>steve hulett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Dec 2006 22:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good discussion.

There&#039;s another humorous sci-fi writer who comes to mind, who&#039;s had a big impact:

Kurt Vonnegut</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good discussion.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s another humorous sci-fi writer who comes to mind, who&#8217;s had a big impact:</p>
<p>Kurt Vonnegut</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Henderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Henderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 22:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to let you know I&#039;m reading all these great comments and enjoying them. Also trying to get dinner cooked and get ready for Chinese school and lose this headache I&#039;ve had all day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to let you know I&#8217;m reading all these great comments and enjoying them. Also trying to get dinner cooked and get ready for Chinese school and lose this headache I&#8217;ve had all day.</p>
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		<title>By: *Joe*</title>
		<link>http://litpark.com/2006/12/06/fantasysci-fi-humorists/comment-page-1/#comment-1735</link>
		<dc:creator>*Joe*</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 20:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always been a fan of science fiction and humor but for some reason I&#039;ve never liked humorous science fiction or fantasy aside from Vonnegut(who denies writing SF in the first place).

Nearly every SF author from the &quot;Golden Age&quot; tried their hand at humorous stories. They&#039;d end up in mags like Astounding or Galaxy or Analog as little more than filler. The stories were really silly, as if the authors wanted to make them way over-the-top so that they could distance themselves. Other than Vonnegut and one or two others like CM Kornbluth and Ron Goulart most dabbled with sci-fi humor but that was pretty much it. In a genre already in the closet - this was the super secret trapdoor in the back of the closet. All the silliness went into book cover design.

On the other hand, I love detective genre humor like Carl Hiaasen and to a lesser extent, Elmore Leonard. I read Gary K Wolf&#039;s_Who Censored Roger Rabbit?_ a few years back and thoroughly enjoyed it. Probably because I&#039;m a big fan of Chandler and Hammett and the &quot;bizarre noir&quot; quality struck a chord. I&#039;ll have to check out Paul Kane, Aurelio Oâ€™Brien &amp; Adrienne Jones. Thanks for the tip and great discussion of character and humor.

A long time ago in... anyway it was way back, I went to a sci-fi convention to meet my hero Isaac Asimov. With a copy of _Pebble in the Sky_ in hand I went off to hunt him down and get his autograph. I found him hiding behind a group of potted palms with a group of fans and two other SF writers; DC Fontana and David Gerrold. Asimov was kind of scary looking in real life. He had these coke bottle thick glasses and enormous mutton chop sideburns that made him look like the mayor of Whoville. The topic of discussion was humor in SF. David Gerrold the guy who wrote the infamous Star Trek episode &quot;The Trouble with Tribbles&quot; was catching flak from a couple of fans for injecting humor into a &quot;serious show&quot; like Star Trek. 

Anyway, Asimov defended Gerrold and said that he would have put more humor in his writing but that he&#039;d have to put in a yiddish glossary half as long as the book and his publisher wouldn&#039;t go for it. Bottom line, he thought there was enough room for humor in the genre and people should lighten up.

If they ever invent a time machine I want to take Triumph the Insult Comic Dog back to that convention as my wingman. That and put in a buy order for Microsoft in 1975 and a sell order for 1999. Hey, I was like 12 at that convention, what did I know? Besides, I spent most of the time staring at Nichelle Nichols breasts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always been a fan of science fiction and humor but for some reason I&#8217;ve never liked humorous science fiction or fantasy aside from Vonnegut(who denies writing SF in the first place).</p>
<p>Nearly every SF author from the &#8220;Golden Age&#8221; tried their hand at humorous stories. They&#8217;d end up in mags like Astounding or Galaxy or Analog as little more than filler. The stories were really silly, as if the authors wanted to make them way over-the-top so that they could distance themselves. Other than Vonnegut and one or two others like CM Kornbluth and Ron Goulart most dabbled with sci-fi humor but that was pretty much it. In a genre already in the closet &#8211; this was the super secret trapdoor in the back of the closet. All the silliness went into book cover design.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I love detective genre humor like Carl Hiaasen and to a lesser extent, Elmore Leonard. I read Gary K Wolf&#8217;s_Who Censored Roger Rabbit?_ a few years back and thoroughly enjoyed it. Probably because I&#8217;m a big fan of Chandler and Hammett and the &#8220;bizarre noir&#8221; quality struck a chord. I&#8217;ll have to check out Paul Kane, Aurelio Oâ€™Brien &amp; Adrienne Jones. Thanks for the tip and great discussion of character and humor.</p>
<p>A long time ago in&#8230; anyway it was way back, I went to a sci-fi convention to meet my hero Isaac Asimov. With a copy of _Pebble in the Sky_ in hand I went off to hunt him down and get his autograph. I found him hiding behind a group of potted palms with a group of fans and two other SF writers; DC Fontana and David Gerrold. Asimov was kind of scary looking in real life. He had these coke bottle thick glasses and enormous mutton chop sideburns that made him look like the mayor of Whoville. The topic of discussion was humor in SF. David Gerrold the guy who wrote the infamous Star Trek episode &#8220;The Trouble with Tribbles&#8221; was catching flak from a couple of fans for injecting humor into a &#8220;serious show&#8221; like Star Trek. </p>
<p>Anyway, Asimov defended Gerrold and said that he would have put more humor in his writing but that he&#8217;d have to put in a yiddish glossary half as long as the book and his publisher wouldn&#8217;t go for it. Bottom line, he thought there was enough room for humor in the genre and people should lighten up.</p>
<p>If they ever invent a time machine I want to take Triumph the Insult Comic Dog back to that convention as my wingman. That and put in a buy order for Microsoft in 1975 and a sell order for 1999. Hey, I was like 12 at that convention, what did I know? Besides, I spent most of the time staring at Nichelle Nichols breasts.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Slick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin Slick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 11:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am now getting like 25 books for Christmas.  Every single one of these intrigues me, too...and I have to admit, I wasn&#039;t familiar with any of these authors because I&#039;ve just recently started reading SciFi and fantasy and wonder how the hell I could have missed out all these years.  And yes, I&#039;m a sucker for humor (and Brits, as you know har har) so this column really appealed to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am now getting like 25 books for Christmas.  Every single one of these intrigues me, too&#8230;and I have to admit, I wasn&#8217;t familiar with any of these authors because I&#8217;ve just recently started reading SciFi and fantasy and wonder how the hell I could have missed out all these years.  And yes, I&#8217;m a sucker for humor (and Brits, as you know har har) so this column really appealed to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Haynes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Haynes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 03:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks - it&#039;s just so rare to hear SF/humour discussed. Throw open the honey pot and the bees will gather ;-)

It&#039;s true that people love to laugh, and non-genre books in the humour category do well. I like to buy funny books for other people, especially if I think they need a laugh or two, and writing a funny series was an extension of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks &#8211; it&#8217;s just so rare to hear SF/humour discussed. Throw open the honey pot and the bees will gather ;-)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true that people love to laugh, and non-genre books in the humour category do well. I like to buy funny books for other people, especially if I think they need a laugh or two, and writing a funny series was an extension of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Henderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Henderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 21:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sure do hear this a lot, the complaint about publishers and marketers rejecting work because they don&#039;t know what shelf to put it on. I think Gulliver&#039;s Travels and Ulysses and all kinds of books that are considered classics would have a hard time being published today. And if they were published, someone would edit the life and the very uniqueness out of them - I have no doubt.

Wonderful discussion, all of you. Aurelio, I loved your comment about the giggling McNuggets - how you show us the absurd things we already accept in our culture by changing their forms.

Simon - So nice to see you here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sure do hear this a lot, the complaint about publishers and marketers rejecting work because they don&#8217;t know what shelf to put it on. I think Gulliver&#8217;s Travels and Ulysses and all kinds of books that are considered classics would have a hard time being published today. And if they were published, someone would edit the life and the very uniqueness out of them &#8211; I have no doubt.</p>
<p>Wonderful discussion, all of you. Aurelio, I loved your comment about the giggling McNuggets &#8211; how you show us the absurd things we already accept in our culture by changing their forms.</p>
<p>Simon &#8211; So nice to see you here!</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Roundell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Roundell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 21:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for making my first attendance at a roundtable discussion such a great one, everybody. Looks like I have a lot of reading to do.
Aurelio said &quot;I do wish there was more deliberate humor in F/SF though, because real life is so often funny and, for me, it makes stories much more believable when they reflect our real human condition.&quot; 
I couldn&#039;t agree with this more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for making my first attendance at a roundtable discussion such a great one, everybody. Looks like I have a lot of reading to do.<br />
Aurelio said &#8220;I do wish there was more deliberate humor in F/SF though, because real life is so often funny and, for me, it makes stories much more believable when they reflect our real human condition.&#8221;<br />
I couldn&#8217;t agree with this more.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaolin Fire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaolin Fire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 20:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good reading, some nice points made ((though I wouldn&#039;t consider &quot;Bored of the Rings&quot; _recent_))

Once you&#039;ve gone out and supported the above authors, consider checking out the teasers at http://gudmagazine.com/vault/0/ -- especially &quot;Trying to Make Coffee&quot; and &quot;4 Short Parables&quot; -- we&#039;re doing what we can to support humor, as well. :)

-kaolin fire
-chief instigator, issue 0
-greatest uncommon denominator magazine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good reading, some nice points made ((though I wouldn&#8217;t consider &#8220;Bored of the Rings&#8221; _recent_))</p>
<p>Once you&#8217;ve gone out and supported the above authors, consider checking out the teasers at <a href="http://gudmagazine.com/vault/0/" rel="nofollow">http://gudmagazine.com/vault/0/</a> &#8212; especially &#8220;Trying to Make Coffee&#8221; and &#8220;4 Short Parables&#8221; &#8212; we&#8217;re doing what we can to support humor, as well. :)</p>
<p>-kaolin fire<br />
-chief instigator, issue 0<br />
-greatest uncommon denominator magazine</p>
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